Olivia Rodrigo

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, co-host B.A. Parker digs into teen-girl angst and what we’ve all already been thinking since might:

How does Olivia Rodrigo’s record album make one feel such as this?

Parker speaks to chop blogger Mia Mercado about
exactly why she feels the record album was created specifically for the woman
, and Hannah Bondalo, a 19-year-old college student
whom moved viral on TikTok
for broadcasting boyfriend programs to

undoubtedly

feel the melancholy therefore perfectly described in

SOUR

. After that Cut music producer Noor Bouzidi, a self-proclaimed hater of sad pop music tracks, is actually finally certain to visit prom.

To hear more about the efficacy of Olivia Rodrigo’s monitors and just how they will have produced a revolution of high-school nostalgia for listeners of all ages, pay attention the following, and subscribe 100% free on
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or anywhere you pay attention. It’s also possible to see the full transcript below, and flow the Spotify playlist we intended for the occurrence, “a Sad Millennial female Break Up Playlist”.



B.A. PARKER:

While I ended up being 9, I got most dreams. I needed to steer your pet dog sled through a blizzard. I needed to marry Shemar Moore. I desired to spit from top of the Empire condition strengthening. But above other things, I wanted to-be Jewel. You understand, like ”
I notice the clock, it really is 6 a.m
,

that

Jewel? I wanted to be the lady. I might attend my grandparents’ hall and write sad, observational people songs about connections and heartbreak that I understood next to nothing about following sing all of them during the playing field during recess. Alone i could recall ended up being called “Piecin’ Up My personal problem,” an existential banger about getting the items of living. Music turned into the sound recording to imaginary agony that I desperately wanted. I really couldn’t wait becoming a teen and go through the span and depression of liking a boy that has an automible.

And thank heavens, I happened to ben’t really the only weirdo whom I did so this.


MIA MERCADO:

We played a song that I penned about a kid in front of him. As he quit liking myself or perhaps making time for myself, I happened to be want, “i will play a track in front of you.” And I also pretended the track was not about him.


PARKER:

As a teenager, Cut writer
Mia Mercado
could be within her space pining, playing Michelle Branch.


MIA:


The Spirit Area. T

hat yellow CD. [It’s] a gorgeous CD. We heard that. Went it raw. Only wrecked it. I

enjoyed

Michelle department certainly. Something from the first record. You are aware, “every where.”


Cuz you are every where in my experience …


—Michelle Department,


“Every Where”


clip


PARKER:

We clearly recall, inside my area, paying attention to a song by Lindsay Lohan.


Cannot breathe without you. Can’t fantasy without you. Truthfully let me know it’s over.


—Lindsay Lohan,


“Over”


video


PARKER:

It actually was a song known as “Over.” I might think of this guy that We enjoyed in my own class while I’d pay attention like,

Tell me it’s more than.


MIA:

Not too you’re collectively.


PARKER:

We’re not collectively.


MIA:

[As if] you’ve been with each other and now it’s more than. Now you arrive at believe level of sadness and never the degree of despair of

We’ll not be together.

Yeah, i did so that, too. Used to do a small amount of, at the very least

, If I dated this person that I’ve never ever spoke to, then we can easily separation then i possibly could feel sad for an alternative reason.


PARKER:

An important element of these adolescent nights invested listening to heartbreak songs within rooms is that Mia and that I were nostalgic for experiences that people

never ever had:

men we had been as well shy to talk to, football games we had been too cool to attend, class dances the spot where the punch was actually never spiked like inside the films.

That is how 19-year-old Hannah Bondalo believed this present year whenever she initially heard

SOUR

, Olivia Rodrigo’s widely adored teenager anxiety break up album.


I Obtained my license the other day …


—Olivia Rodrigo,


“drivers permit”


clip


HANNAH BONDALO:

I found myself always soon after the girl and looking at her Instagram covers and ended up being wanting to know like,

Oh, whenever is she attending release this?

Next 2021 occurred and she introduced “drivers license”. I became love,

Wow, this is exactly probably going to be a fantastic set.


PARKER:

But she could not truly, genuinely feel the record because it’s really meant to be skilled, due to the fact, alas, Hannah is solitary.


HANNAH:

I was seated with my roomie, and she actually is in a commitment, also. Thus I ended up being like, “Man, you ought to split with your sweetheart and then you should listen to your

bad

record to check out exactly how that applies to you, because i can not enjoy it.”


PARKER:

Which is whenever Hannah developed a unique concept.


HANNAH:

She actually is love, “I am not browsing ask my boyfriend to split with myself. He’s never ever planning to accomplish that.” Also because she said it, I was like,

Maybe I’ll do it myself personally. Maybe I should merely have a fake union.


PARKER:

She chose to concoct a relationship to

sense

the misery of Olivia’s record album


HANNAH’S


TIKTOK


CLIP:


Really does any individual wanna day me personally after that break up beside me? With the intention that I’m able to listen to Olivia Rodrigo’s record album and be thankful?


HANNAH:

I put-out my Snapchat and I also asked men and women, “really does anybody want to go into a three-day connection with me because my roomie’s not going to do it and she’s in a pleasurable commitment. So might there be any takers?” I actually had applications can be found in then. I did not also consider I found myself browsing have to do an application process, because when I published my Snapchat, I found myself want,

No person’s ever going to reply.

Right after which I had five individuals, six men and women react straight back saying,


“I’ll do it, we’ll get it done, we’ll get it done.”

This was the application form procedure: the initial concern had been “are you presently alive?” The next concern had been, “Can you carry on two times? One virtual after which one in individual before Friday?”


PARKER:

She made a list about herself such as the undeniable fact that she’s a company major… 2 times. She cries during the flick

Coraline

. She makes impulsive decisions. And she’ll split along with you in 3 days.


PARKER:

Why 3 days?





HANNAH:

It had been exactly the timing of “everything good is available in three days.” In addition, I found myself busy, I happened to be awesome active.

[LAUGHTER]

My timetable was therefore jam-packed and I also was actually like,

I’m not probably have enough time to even do a genuine commitment, so 3 days is right enough.


PARKER:

Just how very long did it elevates to decide on?


HANNAH:

It took three many hours. I literally had been up until about 12:30 in the morning choosing.


PARKER:

She decided on a guy known as Sheel, who was a friend-of-a-friend that she’d identified around campus. And Hannah enjoyed him, because he got the application form process seriously.


HANNAH:

Like, instantly. Right after he stated, “great night, Hannah, many thanks when planning on taking enough time to examine my application. I want to say it really is my satisfaction become an integral part of this strict application process. If you need whatever else from me, please let me know. Many thanks to take the amount of time to read through this message, and I desire to hear away from you soon. Most useful, Sheel” which was just as the hook, line, and sinker. I was like

I know he’s not a company significant but …


PARKER:

The morning of these huge date, Sheel chose Hannah up inside the automobile.


HANNAH:

Once I saw him, the guy started the car home for my situation and then he gave me a rose also it matched my outfit. And that I was actually similar,

This is the perfect begin to the most wonderful time previously.


PARKER:

As well as performed all the relationship-y circumstances they may in just 3 days. They stayed up til 2 a.m. speaking over Zoom. They invested a glorious day producing TikTok dancing video clips, operating scooters, and consuming slushies.


HANNAH:

We were just operating about, playing music, talking. We are only on a single wavelength at this point. I pointed out to him, “Oh, by-the-way, do not forget, you need to break up with me later on.” And he had been like, “i acquired it, don’t worry. I’m sure the master plan.”


PARKER:

Was there actually a moment where you had been like

Oh, possibly i prefer this person

?


HANNAH:

I guess! It really is more of such as that inclination of like,

Oh, I absolutely buzz using this person.

I am not sure if it is ever going to come to be like a real-real commitment down the road, nonetheless it had been just one of those

I-enjoy-being-around-this-person.


PARKER:

Right after which Sunday evening came.


HANNAH:

It was virtually like 11 p.m. at this point. The guy delivered myself an

email

and I also had been like, “What is this?!” And then he’s like, “It is me personally breaking up to you.” The topic line claims “It really is you, perhaps not myself.” Immediately after which in the torso on the message says, “cannot pick myself, cannot select me personally, cannot love me. Bye.”


PARKER:

Hence was that. The guy dumped her after three days the same as Hannah had planned.

Do you realy feel effective in becoming split up with?


HANNAH:

In my opinion I found myself very winning being split up with, because I understood that used to do it to me, but in addition, it nevertheless sorts of harm some. Envision going through all of that only for some guy to e-mail you. Also it had been a

Gray’s Structure



guide too however, which had been funny, but additionally disrespectful. I guess I intended to get harmed, although not in that way. Because, guy, we invested top quality time with each other and you are just likely to send


two contours of a breakup?


PARKER:

Therefore yeah, you might claim that, amazingly, the test worked: heartbreak achieved. Hannah went viral on TikTok after publishing movies of her experiment, and today countless kids are mentally dedicated to a sort-of-pretend 3-day commitment scored to Olivia Rodrigo’s “traitor.”


I suppose you didn’t cheat, you’re however a traitor.


—Olivia Rodrigo,


“traitor”


clip


HANNAH:

The caption ended up being, “He’s not a traitor but he’s the number one qualities.”


PARKER:

As for whether the commitment is actually going to remain pretend, that knows?


HANNAH:

He is in fact residing across the hallway from me personally.


PARKER:

Wait,

just what

?


HANNAH:

I published the TikTok and then a day later I became like, “hold off, in which are you currently residing again?” Right after which the guy stated the building that I reside in. And that I was like, “That’s insane. What floor?” Right after which the guy mentioned the unit wide variety. And that I ended up being like, “that’s

practically

over the hall from myself.” Therefore we’re likely to accomplish dinners and things and enjoyable circumstances. We talked-about placing a water slip between our very own doorways, and fun things like that.


PARKER:

Oh, Hannah.


HANNAH:

We are good buddies. We’re good

buddies.


PARKER:

Hannah desired to feel the familiar agony of a teen-dom, nonetheless fleeting and arranged it actually was. Generating it absolutely was a lot better than lacking it at all. Therefore looks like lots of people remain seeking that experience.

After the split, a zoomer and a millennial enter a prom.

When Olivia Rodrigo’s

SOUR

record album arrived there is most expectation.


MIA:

Thus a couple of some other experts and editors on Cut had been wanting both a “Pleased Olivia Rodrigo record album launch day to your as well as which notice.”


PARKER:

Mia Mercado, once more.


MIA:

We are all over the age of … is she 18? We are all more than 18. I became listening to it like,

Okay, why are we associated with these songs that are about issues that i’ve not experienced in over a decade?


PARKER:

Yes, Olivia Rodrigo is 18 and it has attained a following for sharing each of the woman large thoughts in tune together with backstory behind them. People have realized that many that soon after is actually proper decade taken off becoming a teen. There had been each one of these memes precisely how millennials had co-opted Olivia’s brand new album. Thirty-year-olds happened to be yelling ”
Where’s my personal drilling teenage dream?”

But the reason why? failed to we obtain enough of this when we were


genuine melodramatic teenagers? Could it be Peter Pan nostalgia? Or the proven fact that a lot of people were slingshotted back to their own youth rooms throughout pandemic, viewing

Dawson’s Creek

and

Moesha

on streaming sites? Are we full-on regressing? In my experience it seems a large amount deeper than that.


Cuz I love men and women I really don’t like


And that I hate every tune we compose


And that I’m maybe not cool, and I’m perhaps not smart


And I can not also parallel playground


All used to do was decide to try my best.

—Olivia Rodrigo,
“brutal”
video


MIA:

It actually was really cathartic to learn an 18-year-old talking exactly how an 18-year-old talks and carrying it out in a more eloquent means than i really could have ever before done, and most likely nonetheless is capable of doing.


PARKER:

I’m style of old making use of the pining tracks, those that are like, “Why do they pit ladies against each other? I’ve gotta throw my cellphone over the space” or “brutal.” I could parallel playground, but I will however feel it.


MIA:

Okay,

boast

. What? you are the only real individual that i understand that may really parallel playground.


PARKER:

I am therefore sorry.


MIA:

Oh, never apologize for me. Apologize to Olivia.


PARKER:

Olivia’s tunes tend to be categorically teenager and serious, positive. Nonetheless also slash deep down into something outdated and pronounced that nonetheless stings. Such as the track “jealousy, jealousy.” She sings about maybe not willing to compare by herself to other people, nonetheless it weighs on the.


We kinda want to throw my personal telephone across the place


‘Cause all I see are women too good to be real


With paper-white teeth and best figures


Wish I Did Not care

—Olivia Rodrigo,
“jealousy, jealousy”
video


PARKER:

Once I ended up being a young adult, i did not experience the vocabulary but for my personal insecurity and outrage whenever

US Weekly

would release Britney Spears’s and Paris Hilton’s weights near to their particular labels. Or perhaps the comprehending that some other teen ladies just weren’t my opponent or my competitors. Hell, I’m still grappling with Ebony and brown girls not approved equivalent coming of age that countless white teen women reach have idolized. Teen ladies of tone are not often allowed the grace of purity or the archetypal dream of twelfth grade. We have all large thoughts I had at 17. But I’m able to merely micro-dose all of them every once in a little while. It’s just wonderful getting reminded by Olivia that people emotions will always be there and they are good.

And grownup Mia, which was also just what received the lady into this unique make of teenage-girl melancholy. Olivia becoming Filipina designed Mia could vicariously have the heartache that she didn’t encounter developing upwards. But now, she will conveniently picture by herself in Olivia’s fighting shoes.


MIA:

Yeah! I, too, am Filipino, and thus element of me had been want,

Yes. It is for me personally at the same time. Im a decade avove the age of you, but it’s in my situation.

I did not date folks in high school, but We definitely had crushes on a million individuals. Which is the heartbreak that I’m attracting from.


PARKER:

The notion of weeping on to the ground playing teen anxiety does not ever before really disappear completely. Not necessarily. The other day, I had a belt-out to Brandy’s ”
Have You
” that did my spirit some really good. However everyone is resistors to your cathartic howl of pop yearning. They’ve not ever been inclined to stare at their ceiling and hear ”
Linger
” by Cranberries on an infinite cycle. Folks like my personal man manufacturer, Noor Bouzidi.


NOOR BOUZIDI:

I actually do

perhaps not

tune in to separation albums. I’m form of allergic to this style of music.


PARKER:

Quick reputation for our very own woman Noor. She actually is a 22-year-old reformed metalhead who was the moderator of a very popular One way tumblr. But for some reason she actually is as well cool to sing “drivers permit” with me.


NOOR:

Certainly I’ve thought what cause people to like to compose break up tunes. And I also’m exactly like,

Why do you need that?

Yeah, it really is section of your own artistry, attracting from agonizing situations, but exactly why is it a

thing

that individuals sit in their unique emotions and wallow when you look at the sadness?


PARKER:

Maybe you have listened to any Alanis Morissette?


NOOR:

I’ll Google the girl because I am not sure just who she is.


PARKER:

Oh, my Jesus, Noor. Okay, precisely what do you tune in to?


NOOR:

I will post Nancy Ajram. because she’s like king of Arabic pop. This is the variety of music that I like to tune in to when I’m truly sad.


Ya tabtab


Wadalla


Yay ullanat ghayar taliih


Anaz ‘al awalah


Mah kullihamuz zayardi

—Nancy Ajram,
“Ya Tabtab Wa Dalla”
video


PARKER:

What is she stating?


NOOR:

To tell the truth, Really don’t truly know. I’m not sure exactly what

tabtab

is actually. It’s simply a sound i do believe. I’m exactly like … i can not understand it. Simply mind empty, like i am merely vibing, you understand.


PARKER:

So evidently what you’re saying during the song, “Ya Tatab Wa Dallaa” implies either “we baby” or “spoil”


NOOR:

Yeah, yeah. That is what this means.


PARKER:

Or, “he informs me I’ve altered on him, I have distressed, my temper rises, but all the guy cares about is precisely how to kindly him.”


NOOR:

What? Will You Be really serious?


PARKER:

Yeah.


NOOR:

I thought this is like a ”
Watermelon Sugar
” form of ambiance. Like, you’re merely dropping crazy and it’s really enjoyable.


PARKER:

Nope.


NOOR:

But it is like … ooh. Its even more tense than that.


PARKER:

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